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I wish you (some) pain

Did you see Chief Justice Roberts' graduation speech at his son's ninth-grade commencement? This is the part that caught my eye.

From time to time in the years to come, I hope you will be treated unfairly, so that you will come to know the value of justice.

I hope that you will suffer betrayal because that will teach you the importance of loyalty.

Sorry to say, but I hope you will be lonely from time to time so that you don’t take friends for granted.

I wish you bad luck, again, from time to time so that you will be conscious of the role of chance in life and understand that your success is not completely deserved and that the failure of others is not completely deserved either.

And when you lose, as you will from time to time, I hope every now and then, your opponent will gloat over your failure. It is a way for you to understand the importance of sportsmanship.

I hope you’ll be ignored so you know the importance of listening to others, and I hope you will have just enough pain to learn compassion.

Whether I wish these things or not, they’re going to happen. And whether you benefit from them or not will depend upon your ability to see the message in your misfortunes.

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I really appreciate it when a message/excerpt like this is shared. It helps me (us?) reframe things and consider pain from a vantage point that I (we?) had not pondered or a perspective that challenges my own common and "business as usual" approach/response to pain. Thanks for sharing this Dr. Mounce! May your wish be granted! Blessings upon all who are benefitted from this challenge! E.T.

This was really outstanding.

It was his son't ninth grade graduation, rather than being a nine year old son. I thought such advice for nine year olds might be a bit much. Great post, thanks for pointing it out.

Bill - Thanks for posting. Worthwhile. Greg

this is such a foolish article wishing people misfortune and telling people this is a way to experience the goodness change and the Goodness of God. It is not scriptural. He bore it all on the cross so I would not have to. If any of these things come upon me, and some of them will. I know it is either my bad choices the bad choices of others or the enemy. All this "make you grow crap" is so over rated. If it were true we would all be spittle giants. growth in everyones Faith comes by hearing, hearing comes by Yeshua, who is the Word, then that word is watered by the manifestation of that Word experienced in a persons life, and GOD GIVING THE INCREASE of Faith. All this Pain and suffering is hog wash!!!!!!!!! .

Debbie, your comment doesn't make any sense. Pain absolutely makes you grow deeper in your understanding of the gospel. Why did Jesus learn obedience through suffering (Heb 5:8)? If Jesus suffered to learn, why will it be different for us? God took the greatest act of evil in human history (murdering Jesus Christ on the cross) and used it for the greatest good in human history (resurrection and redemption of all who believe). If you think the reason Jesus died is so that you don't have to suffer, you've severely misread the Bible. Jesus didn't die to make us comfortable. When we believe lies like that, it cheapens the cross.

God bless you , this statement may sound stupid for some people , but is true we need that to group I had a lot if this , and don't want to keep going on this situations, but those are situations that we will never forget because they were the best teachers of our life. We have to thank God for those times and situations i went trough , like my divorce, lost of properties, bad situations with my children, betray by brothers and sisters even my own father. tears all night and day , after bean constable with finance , been with nothing at home to eat, i when with out a refrigerator for 6 month, brothers at church did not see it my family did not see it, I cry out of loneliness , and to have to come church an teach the power of God to the brothers when you are hungry with no money for gas , this is grand days in mu life . But today i am a happy person with my self and every one, I know what is to listen to God voice and each one of the prayer , he said "I will be with you to the end" and then wi don't see how or the light. trough this situation we lear what you just explained , i am a real testimony of it. Yes we need some of that to learn the Gods way . My son said one time, I so you escalated so high like a strong woman, i sought your never will fall from that high mountain , but then I saw you fall down the hills with out stoping, and when you hit the button , I saw how strong you are , i saw you escalate the mountain of God and to become a real woman of God , and I don't know why God chose you , i just don't understand he said. You may me review my life and remember all of that , and yes we need all of that to find the way we missed. God bless you

Devil, I bind that curse out of my life and reverse it in the mighty name of Jesus. I'm a conqueror in Him. No weapon formed against should ever prosper. My Lord came that I may not be condemned but have an abundant life. A thousand shall fall at my side and ten thousand at my right hand, but it won't come near me. God is my refuge. And my present help. If he is for me, who can stand against me. I'm saved sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost and He did not give me a spirit of fear but of love power and seld control. You should watch what you speak into someone else's life, but I'm praying because He has also given me the Keys to the Kingdom. I've binded, now I loose, joy, peace, and prosperity.

Hi Bill, A true and timely word.

Kinda reminds me of Romans 5:3-5. "Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, know that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider this: God has made the one as well as the other.... Ecclesiastes 7:14 (The Message)

I think this message is deep. The key success factor is actually grit from God's perspective. Like it, Thank you for sharing!

Sorry, the first one was actually NIV On a good day, enjoy yourself; On a bad day, examine your conscience. God arranges for both kinds of days So that we won’t take anything for granted. Ecclesiastes 7:14 The Message (MSG)

Dear Dr. Mounce, There has been a view put forward that God uses scriptures to correct His children and supports this with a specific verse. Also, the view espoused above has been criticized as misrepresenting God and responsible for turning people against God or at the very least hindering faith in His power - both of which are not good consequences. Therefore, I request you to re-consider the scriptures in light of what the it specifically says about correction and I presume that there may not be a sufficient biblical basis for espousing the view that God wants us to suffer pain in order to learn. Pramod John

What a wonderful choice of words. So uplifting and at the same time bring us to our knees Thank you.

Wow, in full agreement. Over the past 2000 years the church has been under attack from Satan and it has resisted, matured and flourished. Because of heresies, because of falsehood attempting to creep into churches, the maturity of the church has taken place. A rich, robust, strong theology has developed and we are better for it. We have a better understanding of inspiration, inerrancy, of the divinity of Christ, and the Trinity. This is just a few, but we can see that heresy has pushed us towards a mature, knowledgeable, growing church. This church that we are part of now is the bride of Christ. And she is beautiful and smart. She is preparing for the coming of Christ.


It's about time.

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